The Talbiyah On Behalf Of Women And Stoning On Behalf Of Boys
Darussalam · Volume 2
7. The Chapters On Hajj From The Messenger of Allāh ﷺJami at-Tirmidhi Darussalam English translation
الجزء: 2 ¦ الصفحة: 255
Source no. 927 · Volume 2 · Page 427
Da‘if
ضعيف، ابن ماجة (٣٠٣٨) // ضعيف سنن ابن ماجة برقم (٦٥٢) ، وانظر حجة النبي صلى الله عليه وسلم الصفحة (٥٠) //
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927. Jābir narrated: "When we performed our Hajj with the Prophet ﷺ we would say the Talbiyah for the women and we would stone for the boys." (Da'if) Abū 'Eisā said: This Hadīth is Gharīb; we do not know of it except through this route. The people of knowledge have agreed that the Talbiyah is not to be said for a woman by others, rather she says the Talbiyah for herself, and it is disliked for her to raise her voice with the Talbiyah.
٩٢٧ - حَدَّثَنَا مُحَمَّدُ بْنُ إِسْمَاعِيلَ الْوَاسِطِيُّ قَالَ: سَمِعْتُ ابْنَ نُمَيْرٍ ، عَنْ أَشْعَثَ بْنِ سَوَّارٍ، عَنْ أَبِي الزُّبَيْرِ ، عَنْ جَابِرٍ قَالَ: «كُنَّا إِذَا حَجَجْنَا مَعَ النَّبِيِّ صَلَّى اللهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ»، فَكُنَّا نُلَبِّي عَنِ النِّسَاءِ وَنَرْمِي عَنِ الصِّبْيَانِ. هَذَا حَدِيثٌ غَرِيبٌ، لَا نَعْرِفُهُ إِلَّا مِنْ هَذَا الْوَجْهِ. وَقَدْ أَجْمَعَ أَهْلُ الْعِلْمِ عَلَى أَنَّ الْمَرْأَةَ لَا يُلَبِّي عَنْهَا غَيْرُهَا، بَلْ هِيَ تُلَبِّي عَنْ نَفْسِهَا، وَيُكْرَهُ لَهَا رَفْعُ الصَّوْتِ بِالتَّلْبِيَةِ.
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According to Imām Muḥibb Ṭabarī, men should say Talbiyah on behalf of women. It is unanimously agreed that women should say Talbiyah in a low voice, as their voice may cause some type of temptation for male members.