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What Has Been Related About Istinjā' With Two Stones

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Darussalam · Volume 1

1. The Chapters on Purification (Tahārah) From Allāh’s Messenger ﷺ

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17. 'Abdullāh said: "Allāh's Messenger ﷺ went out to relieve himself. So he said: 'Bring me three stones.'" He said, "So I came with two stones and a piece of dung. So he took the two stones, and left the dung. He said: 'It is Riks (a degenerative or filthy thing).'" (Ṣaḥīḥ) [Abū 'Eisā said:] Similarly, Qais bin Ar-Rabī reported this Hadīth from Abū Ishāq, from Abū 'Ubaidah, from 'Abdullāh, and it is similar to the narration of Isrā'il. (no.17) Ma'mar and 'Ammār bin Ruzaiq reported it from Abū Ishāq, from 'Alqamah, from 'Abdullāh. Zuhair reported it from Abū Ishāq, from 'Abdur-Raḥmān bin Al-Aswad, from his father Al-Aswad bin Yazīd, from 'Abdullāh. Zakariyyā bin Abī Zā'idah reported it from Abū Ishāq, from 'Abdur-Raḥmān bin Yazīd, from Al-Aswad bin Yazīd, from 'Abdullāh. So there is incoherence (Idtirāb) in this Hadīth. [Abū 'Eisā said:] I asked 'Abdullāh bin 'Abdur-Raḥmān which of the narrations of this [Hadīth] from Abū Ishāq is the most correct, but he could not say anything decisive. So I asked Muḥammad about it, and he could not say anything decisive. It is as if he thought that the [Hadīth] of Zuhair – from Abū Ishāq, from 'Abdur-Raḥmān bin Al-Aswad, from his father, from 'Abdullāh – was the most likely since he put it in his book Al-Jāmi'. [Abū 'Eisā said:] To me, the most correct thing about this are the narrations of Isrā'il and Qais; from Abū 'Ubaidah, from 'Abdullāh. This is because Isrā'il is more dependable and better at preserving the narrations of Abū Ishāq than these people, and Qais's narration corroborated it. [Abū 'Eisā said:] I heard Abū Mūsā Muḥammad bin Al-Muthanna saying: "I heard 'Abdur-Raḥmān bin Mahdī saying; 'I only left the narrations of Sufyān Ath- Thawrī from Abū Ishāq because I relied on Isrā'īl for it, since he narrated it in a more complete fashion." Abū 'Eisā said: In the case of Abū Ishāq, Zuhair is not like that, because he heard from him at the end of his life. [He said: And] I heard Aḥmad bin Al-Hasan [At-Tirmidhī] saying: "I heard Aḥmad bin Ḥanbal saying: 'When one hears a [Hadīth] from Zā'idah and Zuhair, then there is no harm if he does not hear it from others, except in the case of Abū Ishāq.'" Abū Ishāq's name is 'Amr bin 'Abdullāh As-Sabī'ī Al-Hamdānī. And Abū 'Ubaidah bin 'Abdullāh bin Mas'ūd did not hear from his father, and we do not know his name. Muḥammad bin Bash-shār [Al-'Abdī] narrated to us, Muḥammad bin Ja'far narrated to us, from Shu'bah, from 'Amr bin Murrah who said: "I asked Abū 'Ubaidah bin 'Abdullāh: 'Did you remember anything from 'Abdullāh?' He said, 'No.'"

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١٧ - حَدَّثَنَا ‌هَنَّادٌ ‌وَقُتَيْبَةُ قَالَا: حَدَّثَنَا ‌وَكِيعٌ، عَنْ ‌إِسْرَائِيلَ ، عَنْ ‌أَبِي إِسْحَاقَ ، عَنْ ‌أَبِي عُبَيْدَةَ ، عَنْ ‌عَبْدِ اللهِ قَالَ: «خَرَجَ النَّبِيُّ صَلَّى اللهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ لِحَاجَتِهِ، فَقَالَ: الْتَمِسْ لِي ثَلَاثَةَ أَحْجَارٍ»، قَالَ: فَأَتَيْتُهُ بِحَجَرَيْنِ وَرَوْثَةٍ، فَأَخَذَ الْحَجَرَيْنِ وَأَلْقَى الرَّوْثَةَ، وَقَالَ: إِنَّهَا رِكْسٌ. وَهَكَذَا رَوَى قَيْسُ بْنُ الرَّبِيعِ هَذَا الْحَدِيثَ عَنْ أَبِي إِسْحَاقَ، عَنْ أَبِي عُبَيْدَةَ، عَنْ عَبْدِ اللهِ نَحْوَ حَدِيثِ إِسْرَائِيلَ. وَرَوَى مَعْمَرٌ، وَعَمَّارُ بْنُ رُزَيْقٍ، عَنْ أَبِي إِسْحَاقَ، عَنْ عَلْقَمَةَ، عَنْ عَبْدِ اللهِ. وَرَوَى زُهَيْرٌ، عَنْ أَبِي إِسْحَاقَ، عَنْ عَبْدِ الرَّحْمَنِ بْنِ الْأَسْوَدِ، عَنْ أَبِيهِ الْأَسْوَدِ بْنِ يَزِيدَ، عَنْ عَبْدِ اللهِ. وَرَوَى زَكَرِيَّا بْنُ أَبِي زَائِدَةَ، عَنْ أَبِي إِسْحَاقَ، عَنْ عَبْدِ الرَّحْمَنِ بْنِ يَزِيدَ، عَنِ الْأَسْوَدِ بْنِ يَزِيدَ، عَنْ عَبْدِ اللهِ. وَهَذَا حَدِيثٌ فِيهِ اضْطِرَابٌ. حَدَّثَنَا مُحَمَّدُ بْنُ بَشَّارٍ، قَالَ: حَدَّثَنَا مُحَمَّدُ بْنُ جَعْفَرٍ، قَالَ: حَدَّثَنَا شُعْبَةُ، عَنْ عَمْرِو بْنِ مُرَّةَ قَالَ: سَأَلْتُ أَبَا عُبَيْدَةَ بْنَ عَبْدِ اللهِ: هَلْ تَذْكُرُ مِنْ عَبْدِ اللهِ شَيْئًا؟ قَالَ: لَا. سَأَلْتُ عَبْدَ اللهِ بْنَ عَبْدِ الرَّحْمَنِ: أَيُّ الرِّوَايَاتِ فِي هَذَا عَنْ أَبِي إِسْحَاقَ أَصَحُّ؟ فَلَمْ يَقْضِ فِيهِ بِشَيْءٍ. وَسَأَلْتُ مُحَمَّدًا عَنْ هَذَا فَلَمْ يَقْضِ فِيهِ بِشَيْءٍ، وَكَأَنَّهُ رَأَى حَدِيثَ زُهَيْرٍ، عَنْ أَبِي إِسْحَاقَ، عَنْ عَبْدِ الرَّحْمَنِ بْنِ الْأَسْوَدِ، عَنْ أَبِيهِ، عَنْ عَبْدِ اللهِ أَشْبَهَ، وَوَضَعَهُ فِي كِتَابِ الْجَامِعِ. وَأَصَحُّ شَيْءٍ فِي هَذَا عِنْدِي حَدِيثُ إِسْرَائِيلَ وَقَيْسٍ، عَنْ أَبِي إِسْحَاقَ، عَنْ أَبِي عُبَيْدَةَ، عَنْ عَبْدِ اللهِ؛ لِأَنَّ إِسْرَائِيلَ أَثْبَتُ وَأَحْفَظُ لِحَدِيثِ أَبِي إِسْحَاقَ مِنْ هَؤُلَاءِ، وَتَابَعَهُ عَلَى ذَلِكَ قَيْسُ بْنُ الرَّبِيعِ. وَسَمِعْتُ أَبَا مُوسَى مُحَمَّدَ بْنَ الْمُثَنَّى يَقُولُ: سَمِعْتُ عَبْدَ الرَّحْمَنِ بْنَ مَهْدِيٍّ يَقُولُ: مَا فَاتَنِي الَّذِي فَاتَنِي مِنْ حَدِيثِ سُفْيَانَ الثَّوْرِيِّ، عَنْ أَبِي إِسْحَاقَ إِلَّا لِمَا اتَّكَلْتُ بِهِ عَلَى إِسْرَائِيلَ؛ لِأَنَّهُ كَانَ يَأْتِي بِهِ أَتَمَّ. وَزُهَيْرٌ فِي أَبِي إِسْحَاقَ، لَيْسَ بِذَاكَ؛ لِأَنَّ سَمَاعَهُ مِنْهُ بِأَخَرَةٍ. وَسَمِعْتُ أَحْمَدَ بْنَ الْحَسَنِ يَقُولُ: سَمِعْتُ أَحْمَدَ بْنَ حَنْبَلٍ يَقُولُ: إِذَا سَمِعْتَ الْحَدِيثَ عَنْ زَائِدَةَ، وَزُهَيْرٍ فَلَا تُبَالِي أَنْ لَا تَسْمَعَهُ مِنْ غَيْرِهِمَا، إِلَّا حَدِيثَ أَبِي إِسْحَاقَ. وَأَبُو إِسْحَاقَ اسْمُهُ: عَمْرُو بْنُ عَبْدِ اللهِ السَّبِيعِيُّ الْهَمْدَانِيُّ. وَأَبُو عُبَيْدَةَ بْنُ عَبْدِ اللهِ بْنِ مَسْعُودٍ لَمْ يَسْمَعْ مِنْ أَبِيهِ وَلَا يُعْرَفُ اسْمُهُ.

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