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What Has Been Related About Talking After The Imām Descends From The Minbar

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Darussalam · Volume 1

4. The Chapters On Al-Jumu'ah (Friday) [From Allāh's Messenger ﷺ]

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الجزء: 1 ¦ الصفحة: 522

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517. Anas bin Mālik narrated: "Allāh's Messenger ﷺ would talk as necessary after descending from the Minbar." (Ṣaḥīḥ) Abū 'Eisā said: We only know this Ḥadīth from the narration of Jarīr bin Hāzim. I heard Muḥammad saying: "Jarīr bin Hāzim was confused in this Ḥadīth. What is correct is what is reported from Thābit from Anas, who said: "The Iqāmah was called for the Ṣalāt, and a man took the hand of the Prophet ﷺ, and he did not stop talking to him until some people became sleepy." Muḥammad said: "This is his Ḥadīth." Sometimes Jarīr bin Hāzim is confused about things, but he is truthful. Muḥammad said: "Jarīr bin Ḥāzim was confused in the Ḥadīth of Thābit, from Anas, from the Prophet ﷺ who said: 'When the Iqāmah is called for Ṣalāt, then do not stand until you see me.'" Muḥammad said: "It has been reported from Ḥammād bin Zaid that he said: 'We were with Thābit Al-Bunānī, when Ḥajjāj Aṣ-Ṣawwāf narrated to us from Yahya bin Abī Kathīr, from 'Abdullāh bin Abī Qatādah, from his father, that the Prophet ﷺ said: "When the Iqāmah is called for Ṣalāt, then do not stand until you see me.''" So Jarīr was confused and thought that Thābit had narrated it to them from Anas, from the Prophet ﷺ."

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٥١٧ - حَدَّثَنَا ‌مُحَمَّدُ بْنُ بَشَّارٍ، قَالَ: حَدَّثَنَا ‌أَبُو دَاوُدَ الطَّيَالِسِيُّ، قَالَ: حَدَّثَنَا ‌جَرِيرُ بْنُ حَازِمٍ، عَنْ ‌ثَابِتٍ ، عَنْ ‌أَنَسِ بْنِ مَالِكٍ قَالَ: «كَانَ النَّبِيُّ صَلَّى اللهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ يُكَلَّمُ بِالْحَاجَةِ إِذَا نَزَلَ عَنِ الْمِنْبَرِ» هَذَا حَدِيثٌ غَرِيبٌ لَا نَعْرِفُهُ إِلَّا مِنْ حَدِيثِ جَرِيرِ بْنِ حَازِمٍ. سَمِعْتُ مُحَمَّدًا يَقُولُ: وَهِمَ جَرِيرُ بْنُ حَازِمٍ فِي هَذَا الْحَدِيثِ، وَالصَّحِيحُ مَا رُوِيَ عَنْ ثَابِتٍ، عَنْ أَنَسٍ قَالَ: أُقِيمَتِ الصَّلَاةُ فَأَخَذَ رَجُلٌ بِيَدِ النَّبِيِّ صَلَّى اللهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ فَمَا زَالَ يُكَلِّمُهُ حَتَّى نَعَسَ بَعْضُ الْقَوْمِ، وَالْحَدِيثُ هُوَ هَذَا. وَجَرِيرُ بْنُ حَازِمٍ رُبَّمَا يَهِمُ فِي الشَّيْءِ، وَهُوَ صَدُوقٌ. قَالَ مُحَمَّدٌ: وَهِمَ جَرِيرُ بْنُ حَازِمٍ فِي حَدِيثِ ثَابِتٍ، عَنْ أَنَسٍ، عَنِ النَّبِيِّ صَلَّى اللهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ قَالَ: إِذَا أُقِيمَتِ الصَّلَاةُ فَلَا تَقُومُوا حَتَّى تَرَوْنِي. قَالَ مُحَمَّدٌ: وَيُرْوَى عَنْ حَمَّادِ بْنِ زَيْدٍ قَالَ: كُنَّا عِنْدَ ثَابِتٍ الْبُنَانِيِّ فَحَدَّثَ حَجَّاجٌ الصَّوَّافُ، عَنْ يَحْيَى بْنِ أَبِي كَثِيرٍ، عَنْ عَبْدِ اللهِ بْنِ أَبِي قَتَادَةَ، عَنْ أَبِيهِ، عَنِ النَّبِيِّ صَلَّى اللهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ قَالَ: إِذَا أُقِيمَتِ الصَّلَاةُ فَلَا تَقُومُوا حَتَّى تَرَوْنِي فَوَهِمَ جَرِيرٌ فَظَنَّ أَنَّ ثَابِتًا حَدَّثَهُمْ عَنْ أَنَسٍ، عَنِ النَّبِيِّ صَلَّى اللهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ.

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    [1] Az-Zawrā' was a market place in Al-Madinah.

Commentary

Imām Bukhārī understood that this incident occurred at the time of Ishā' prayer as the Iqāmah had been pronounced. This incident is not related to the Friday prayer and getting off the pulpit, and neither was this the Prophet ﷺ usual habit. However, the majority of the scholars allow talking before and after the Friday sermon.